sanhari
07-26 09:43 AM
GCperm, Thank you for your inputs.
I actually got this input of contacting congressman to implement this change, from USCIS only(their blog). I will also contact the ones mentioned in your posting. I also request all EB folks affected by this spillover usage not based on priority date, to contact them in addition to their local congressman. Let's not leave any stone unturned to make this happen, to help us all out. If this happens soon to create an impact, we may see some light in the upcoming bulletins. So all of you please do your part to contact them today(if not done already), I am on it now.
Sanhari,
If we go with your feeling, and run the Campaign right way then following is summary.
1) What you mentioned was there is no need to Legislative change for your solution only Interpretation of INA need to be changed challenged.
2) EB3 Folks want only on using Fall Across / Down /UP visa's to be allocated based on PD, rather then category.
3) Removing Country quota will need legislative change and EB3 folks don't want to take it on hand at this time.
4) You and EB3 folks are good with division created by this Campaign.
Now, If above summary is true then You need to be doing following,
1) READ INA and Find where is violation or Incorrect interpretation in Applying VISA to EB2.
2) You need to be contacting DOS - Mr. Charles Oppenheim / Hillary Clinton their 2007 interpretation of Applying VISA to EB2.
3) You need to be contacting DOS Liaison to Challenge their 2007 interpretation of Applying VISA to EB2.
4) If EB3 Guys are confident of incorrect INA interpretation, collect Money and Prepare for Law-Suit if needed.
5) As there is no Legislative changes needed, there is no need to contact Law makers (Senators, House members).
6) There is no Process improvements so no need to reach out to USCIS ombudsman.
7) Its About VISA allocation by DOS, so contacting USCIS won't help either.
Now Contacts for DOS,
Followings are Contact Information for DOS Liaison,
Palma R. Yanni (dl), DOS Liaison Committee Chair, AILA Past President, Washington, DC Contact Information (http://www.palma-yanni.com/contact.htm)
Jerome G. Grzeca, DOS Liaison Committee Vice-Chair, AILA Board of Governors, Milwaukee, WI http://www.grzecalaw.com/contact_us.cfm
Following is the Link to Send email/Questions to Department of State.
Contact Us at the U.S. State Department (http://contact-us.state.gov/cgi-bin/state.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=4Eiijc*j&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=264&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfc m93X2NudD0xMTYsMTE2JnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0 mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ub CZwX3BhZ2U9MQ)
Following is the Contact information for DOS
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/111781.pdf
Oppenheim, Charles W. CA/VO/F/IV L415(CHIEF SA-1 (202) 663-1087
Good Luck and God Bless.
I actually got this input of contacting congressman to implement this change, from USCIS only(their blog). I will also contact the ones mentioned in your posting. I also request all EB folks affected by this spillover usage not based on priority date, to contact them in addition to their local congressman. Let's not leave any stone unturned to make this happen, to help us all out. If this happens soon to create an impact, we may see some light in the upcoming bulletins. So all of you please do your part to contact them today(if not done already), I am on it now.
Sanhari,
If we go with your feeling, and run the Campaign right way then following is summary.
1) What you mentioned was there is no need to Legislative change for your solution only Interpretation of INA need to be changed challenged.
2) EB3 Folks want only on using Fall Across / Down /UP visa's to be allocated based on PD, rather then category.
3) Removing Country quota will need legislative change and EB3 folks don't want to take it on hand at this time.
4) You and EB3 folks are good with division created by this Campaign.
Now, If above summary is true then You need to be doing following,
1) READ INA and Find where is violation or Incorrect interpretation in Applying VISA to EB2.
2) You need to be contacting DOS - Mr. Charles Oppenheim / Hillary Clinton their 2007 interpretation of Applying VISA to EB2.
3) You need to be contacting DOS Liaison to Challenge their 2007 interpretation of Applying VISA to EB2.
4) If EB3 Guys are confident of incorrect INA interpretation, collect Money and Prepare for Law-Suit if needed.
5) As there is no Legislative changes needed, there is no need to contact Law makers (Senators, House members).
6) There is no Process improvements so no need to reach out to USCIS ombudsman.
7) Its About VISA allocation by DOS, so contacting USCIS won't help either.
Now Contacts for DOS,
Followings are Contact Information for DOS Liaison,
Palma R. Yanni (dl), DOS Liaison Committee Chair, AILA Past President, Washington, DC Contact Information (http://www.palma-yanni.com/contact.htm)
Jerome G. Grzeca, DOS Liaison Committee Vice-Chair, AILA Board of Governors, Milwaukee, WI http://www.grzecalaw.com/contact_us.cfm
Following is the Link to Send email/Questions to Department of State.
Contact Us at the U.S. State Department (http://contact-us.state.gov/cgi-bin/state.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=4Eiijc*j&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=264&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfc m93X2NudD0xMTYsMTE2JnBfcHJvZHM9JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0 mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ub CZwX3BhZ2U9MQ)
Following is the Contact information for DOS
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/111781.pdf
Oppenheim, Charles W. CA/VO/F/IV L415(CHIEF SA-1 (202) 663-1087
Good Luck and God Bless.
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anzerraja
07-20 02:36 AM
Here is the spreadsheet link to see the update as of July 19th 2007 12.00 AM.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p96kObnZMpVWFczU3Fn9GTQ&hl=en
Awesome !!!
Please note that some of the members who have pledged have not yet filled the amount yet, so those are blanks. They will be filled in, once the members quote the pledge amount.
This is amazing that the news about this thread has not yet reached all the other members and still the response is very very good.
Thanks all of you !!!
TOGETHER WE CAN GET THIS DONE TODAY.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p96kObnZMpVWFczU3Fn9GTQ&hl=en
Awesome !!!
Please note that some of the members who have pledged have not yet filled the amount yet, so those are blanks. They will be filled in, once the members quote the pledge amount.
This is amazing that the news about this thread has not yet reached all the other members and still the response is very very good.
Thanks all of you !!!
TOGETHER WE CAN GET THIS DONE TODAY.
Kodi
06-22 12:05 PM
Why would filing I-485 change the whole financials for the company?
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apahilaj
12-19 12:56 PM
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buddyinsd
02-08 05:56 PM
To know something is good (following news of one or more countries) so we can decide whats better. Seems like u have misinterpreted that or thinking too much to go on to say its "attachment" ha ha ha
But you watch Indian TV and see him everyday? :D
Why are you attached to India when you hate it? You want to get Green Card in USA and live here permanently. So should you not learn more about this country and culture. You cannot live in USA but think about India all the time and hate it too.
But you watch Indian TV and see him everyday? :D
Why are you attached to India when you hate it? You want to get Green Card in USA and live here permanently. So should you not learn more about this country and culture. You cannot live in USA but think about India all the time and hate it too.
life99f
07-08 09:14 PM
Give me a link to DC thread...
Thanks
Can you post this on DC thread..
We have so far 46...
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Can you post this on DC thread..
We have so far 46...
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desi3933
07-10 02:25 PM
@desi3933:
On the other hand, I-140 is linked to Permanent Labor Certification (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/perm.cfm) (aka GC labor)
"Permanent Labor Certification" does not mean the job has to be "permanent" (you're again *assuming*, no?) It could also mean LC for "permanent" residency!
Looks like you missed this on that link:
The job opportunity must be for a full time, permanent position.
There must be a bona fide job opening available to U.S. workers.
Job requirements must adhere to what is customarily required for the occupation in the U.S. and may not be tailored to the foreign worker's qualifications. The employer must pay at least the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of intended employment.
On the other hand, I-140 is linked to Permanent Labor Certification (http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/perm.cfm) (aka GC labor)
"Permanent Labor Certification" does not mean the job has to be "permanent" (you're again *assuming*, no?) It could also mean LC for "permanent" residency!
Looks like you missed this on that link:
The job opportunity must be for a full time, permanent position.
There must be a bona fide job opening available to U.S. workers.
Job requirements must adhere to what is customarily required for the occupation in the U.S. and may not be tailored to the foreign worker's qualifications. The employer must pay at least the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of intended employment.
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gjoe
12-17 10:16 AM
I opened a SR for non receipt of my FP notice, on 30Oct2007. I got a reply from USCIS exactly after 45 days ( very prompt) notifying me that " my FP has not yet expired or my FP is not yet cleared". Certainly this looks like a canned reply from USCIS which was sent even without looking at my file. I guess they should be more transparent in their process than just sending plain lies.
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shivaz90
07-05 10:36 AM
Can someone with a paypal account come forward and take over a fund? Anyone with a paypal account can donate any amount using a nickname and we can publish the nickname along with the amount donated on this thread. That way we have accountability and also have a better idea of how many flowers we can send. That person with the paypal account can then order the flowers on Saturday by the latest.
Others, if they want, can send the flowers on their own also.
Just a suggestion... If we can do this, I believe more people will come forward!
Anyone who has donated to IV should be able to do this...
This is a good idea - actually we could send flowers for cheap rates if we order it in bulk. Let me know who's in for this. We can open up a paypal account or use one of our own paypal account and start collecting funds and use it to send the flowers to the USCIS dept.
Any takers?
By the way - since I am in NOVA/DC, I can initiate some media coverage even if we can get some substantial number of people sending flowers.
Others, if they want, can send the flowers on their own also.
Just a suggestion... If we can do this, I believe more people will come forward!
Anyone who has donated to IV should be able to do this...
This is a good idea - actually we could send flowers for cheap rates if we order it in bulk. Let me know who's in for this. We can open up a paypal account or use one of our own paypal account and start collecting funds and use it to send the flowers to the USCIS dept.
Any takers?
By the way - since I am in NOVA/DC, I can initiate some media coverage even if we can get some substantial number of people sending flowers.
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neoneo
05-05 10:57 AM
Well, following the discussion on BS and MS grads and some of the members cribbing why the MS(from US) students get special treatment, here are my 2 cents.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
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Karthik Thambidurai
07-13 06:24 AM
Just woke up to NPR morning news ... nice coverage on the July bulletin.
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man-woman-and-gc
09-15 02:46 PM
It's just hidden but when you do export to csv it shows everything. This is not secure. Please be careful with sharing your phone # on public domains.
Folks...I was told once by an IV core member ' This is the land of the fearless' and therefore we should not fear abut simple things like like sharing our email ID or ph#.
However, keeping this concern in mind that may prevent some members from supporting, i have removed the email ID and ph# column from the public spreadsheet. I will maintain a separate spreadsheet with list of email ID's and ph# so that we can get in touch as soon as it is time for some real action.
Thanks.
Folks...I was told once by an IV core member ' This is the land of the fearless' and therefore we should not fear abut simple things like like sharing our email ID or ph#.
However, keeping this concern in mind that may prevent some members from supporting, i have removed the email ID and ph# column from the public spreadsheet. I will maintain a separate spreadsheet with list of email ID's and ph# so that we can get in touch as soon as it is time for some real action.
Thanks.
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nk2006
10-25 12:23 PM
Yes, but the immigration hearings already happened. People already have a clear indication on what the public wants. Lou Dobbs is still out there reminding them. Honestly, I wish us good luck, but I am not sure.
Seems like you are indicating that public clearly against CIR: on what basis you are saying that. There was no referendum and even an election after the CIR debate. Most of the opinion polls are evenly split: if I remember correctly a popular opinion poll said that most Americans want to solve the immigration issue and they also are fine with putting illegal immigrants on path to citizenship. They also want to have more border security provisions � most of these aspects are covered in CIR. Of course illegal immigration issue is controversial and CIR may never succeed in its current form irrespective of who is in control of congress. A democrat leading congress may not venture into too controversial aspects of immigration fearing a backlash during presidential elections. The backlash they fear is energizing the extreme right wing. A republican leading congress anyway won�t pass CIR bill.
That�s why our best bet is SKILL bill � this is relatively non-controversial, good for American industry, and supported by different groups. Of course it is very difficult.
Not sure if such an important bill will be taken up during lame-duck session. In fact the outgoing house members may actually push for some aggressive border security measures to make the process even longer than it is now. So yes�.I too wish us good luck we do need it a lot.
Seems like you are indicating that public clearly against CIR: on what basis you are saying that. There was no referendum and even an election after the CIR debate. Most of the opinion polls are evenly split: if I remember correctly a popular opinion poll said that most Americans want to solve the immigration issue and they also are fine with putting illegal immigrants on path to citizenship. They also want to have more border security provisions � most of these aspects are covered in CIR. Of course illegal immigration issue is controversial and CIR may never succeed in its current form irrespective of who is in control of congress. A democrat leading congress may not venture into too controversial aspects of immigration fearing a backlash during presidential elections. The backlash they fear is energizing the extreme right wing. A republican leading congress anyway won�t pass CIR bill.
That�s why our best bet is SKILL bill � this is relatively non-controversial, good for American industry, and supported by different groups. Of course it is very difficult.
Not sure if such an important bill will be taken up during lame-duck session. In fact the outgoing house members may actually push for some aggressive border security measures to make the process even longer than it is now. So yes�.I too wish us good luck we do need it a lot.
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bijualex29
05-01 09:57 AM
I called there office but no clue what SKIL bill is about (Washington DC).
Can any one explain the source of this bill.
Can any one explain the source of this bill.
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rahulpaper
09-03 05:35 PM
Applied june 26th and received CPO email today.
How many days do you think will i get the card in hand?
How many days do you think will i get the card in hand?
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pa_arora
07-09 02:44 PM
One more...
Just a reminder..
Make and take some big posters (small with BOLD letters would help) with you...just the gathering wont help that much unless we have some big poster in hands. This would help if we are pictured by media.
Just a reminder..
Make and take some big posters (small with BOLD letters would help) with you...just the gathering wont help that much unless we have some big poster in hands. This would help if we are pictured by media.
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jindhal
09-24 10:34 AM
I am not sure if I am correct,
Although no. of visas are awarded "EB category + country" wise, but spillover is not awarded in same fashion.
.e.g. 3000 visa comes to EB2 I & 3000 visa comes to EB3 I.
But spillover comes from EB1 to EB2 irrespective of country. And reason why EB2 I is far ahead is because of spillover gain before it reaches to EB3.
Even if some EB2 I guys are not happy with EB3 person porting to EB2, shouldn't they calm down as whoever is porting taking benefit from spillover for EB2 world and not from spillover EB2 I.
My assumption is spillover comes to "EB2" and not "EB2 + country" wise, if that is not correct then my point is nullified.
The number of visas are awared "(EB + FB) Country" wise. The 7% limit is on the total green cards issued to a country regardless of category. There are two types of spillovers
1) The spillover from EB1 -> EB2
2) The spillover from FB -> EB
In the first scenario the spill over happens from EB1 to EB2 regardless of category, the spillover visas do not have any country cap or other limitations and hence are awarded to the oldest priority date applicants in the EB2 category. (This is why China doesnt support country cap removal as USCIS gives the oldest application the highest priority and most of the older applications are from India). IFF all the EB2 categories are current and there are no more pending EB2 applications the visa numbers spill over to the next category i.e. EB3. Therefore until all of EB2 is current EB3 will not receive any spillover visas.
In the second scenario the spill over happens between the FB and EB categories. If a certain country has not used up its entire FB quota additional number of EB visa's will be made available to the applicants of that country. e.g. If Korea has a total limit of 100 visas, which are evenly split between the EB and FB categories so they each have a limit of 50 visas. Only 20 people applied in the FB categories but 80 people applied in the EB categories. USCIS will approve all those applications even though the EB applicants far exceeded the EB limit.
India doesnt benefit from the FB<=>EB spillover as there are sufficient number of FB applicants as well.
And this is how the cookie crumbles.
Although no. of visas are awarded "EB category + country" wise, but spillover is not awarded in same fashion.
.e.g. 3000 visa comes to EB2 I & 3000 visa comes to EB3 I.
But spillover comes from EB1 to EB2 irrespective of country. And reason why EB2 I is far ahead is because of spillover gain before it reaches to EB3.
Even if some EB2 I guys are not happy with EB3 person porting to EB2, shouldn't they calm down as whoever is porting taking benefit from spillover for EB2 world and not from spillover EB2 I.
My assumption is spillover comes to "EB2" and not "EB2 + country" wise, if that is not correct then my point is nullified.
The number of visas are awared "(EB + FB) Country" wise. The 7% limit is on the total green cards issued to a country regardless of category. There are two types of spillovers
1) The spillover from EB1 -> EB2
2) The spillover from FB -> EB
In the first scenario the spill over happens from EB1 to EB2 regardless of category, the spillover visas do not have any country cap or other limitations and hence are awarded to the oldest priority date applicants in the EB2 category. (This is why China doesnt support country cap removal as USCIS gives the oldest application the highest priority and most of the older applications are from India). IFF all the EB2 categories are current and there are no more pending EB2 applications the visa numbers spill over to the next category i.e. EB3. Therefore until all of EB2 is current EB3 will not receive any spillover visas.
In the second scenario the spill over happens between the FB and EB categories. If a certain country has not used up its entire FB quota additional number of EB visa's will be made available to the applicants of that country. e.g. If Korea has a total limit of 100 visas, which are evenly split between the EB and FB categories so they each have a limit of 50 visas. Only 20 people applied in the FB categories but 80 people applied in the EB categories. USCIS will approve all those applications even though the EB applicants far exceeded the EB limit.
India doesnt benefit from the FB<=>EB spillover as there are sufficient number of FB applicants as well.
And this is how the cookie crumbles.
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lazycis
10-11 03:16 PM
What happens when one filed labor under software engineer and then uses AC21 to switch jobs to a different company with a different job description like architect, product technologist or technical product manager.
The job description says designs architects and develops software. A product tecnologist,product manager or architect can be doing the same work in addition to other job functions.
I did use AC21. The law says (see 8 USC 1154(j)):
"A petition under subsection (a)(1)(D) of this section for an individual whose application for adjustment of status pursuant to section 1255 of this title has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more shall remain valid with respect to a new job if the individual changes jobs or employers if the new job is in the same or a similar occupational classification as the job for which the petition was filed."
So salary, job locations, etc. do not matter. What does matter is the job classification. As long as you are in the same field and do the same or similar job, you'll be fine. My company's lawyer told me that they never had a problem with AC21 (company has 100,000+ employees).
Now, I am not sure if someone can leave the job, leave the US and come back 3 months later to work for a new employer. I think it's safer to have a continued employment.
The job description says designs architects and develops software. A product tecnologist,product manager or architect can be doing the same work in addition to other job functions.
I did use AC21. The law says (see 8 USC 1154(j)):
"A petition under subsection (a)(1)(D) of this section for an individual whose application for adjustment of status pursuant to section 1255 of this title has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more shall remain valid with respect to a new job if the individual changes jobs or employers if the new job is in the same or a similar occupational classification as the job for which the petition was filed."
So salary, job locations, etc. do not matter. What does matter is the job classification. As long as you are in the same field and do the same or similar job, you'll be fine. My company's lawyer told me that they never had a problem with AC21 (company has 100,000+ employees).
Now, I am not sure if someone can leave the job, leave the US and come back 3 months later to work for a new employer. I think it's safer to have a continued employment.
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PBECVictim
08-02 10:20 AM
After doing research, I am thinking that my case may move to Texas Service centre. If I get SRC receipt number, it will be good. My I-140 can be processed within 4 months.
Since it reached before July 30 it can reach anywhere !
Though I would say pray for TSC !
Since it reached before July 30 it can reach anywhere !
Though I would say pray for TSC !
conchshell
02-26 07:32 PM
And who is hurting because of this? Is it not you? And me? and our families? Whose fault is it that we refuse to actively participated in the effort that wants us to lead a stable life.
You see, most people here work in IT. So we have binary logic. 0 & 1. There is no in between. So most people in this community of educated illiterates wants the world to be perfectly aligned before we lift a finger. Lets wait for few more years for GC before we contribute my hard earned $20 after bickering for 10 years, way to go.
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Sanju,
May be "educated illiterates" is a too strong word to describe our community. But no complaints, I know that sometime passion run high and we use strong words to convey our feelings. I know you mean all good for IV and the community.
I am contributing to IV with my time/money/efforts from a long time. I had several face to face interactions with people here in Colorado when I used to ask them why they shy away from fighting for what they deserve. Trust me, it would be unfair to say that people want someone else to fight on their behalf, but what people want is an organization that can represent them in a fair manner, and they feel that IV has a long way to go before that stage comes. I posted a summary of suggested reforms in IV as a organization, but unfortunately it did not spark that positive debate which can bring such reforms. You can read the thread in your leasure time:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406&page=2
Transparency in its action is one such big thing. Lets just learn from an anti immigration forum called numbersusa.com. On their donation page (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/make-donation.html) they clearly mention that "NumbersUSA is recognized by Independent Charities of America as one of the top 3% of well-run charities. When you donate to NumbersUSA, you can be sure that the money is used responsibly." Can we here at IV make such bold statement and prepare ourselves to prove this point if a member ask such question?
I am no way opposing this campaign, I am supporting this and going to contribute too. But I guess its not too much to ask where these contribution will go, and what track able results they might bring.
You see, most people here work in IT. So we have binary logic. 0 & 1. There is no in between. So most people in this community of educated illiterates wants the world to be perfectly aligned before we lift a finger. Lets wait for few more years for GC before we contribute my hard earned $20 after bickering for 10 years, way to go.
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Sanju,
May be "educated illiterates" is a too strong word to describe our community. But no complaints, I know that sometime passion run high and we use strong words to convey our feelings. I know you mean all good for IV and the community.
I am contributing to IV with my time/money/efforts from a long time. I had several face to face interactions with people here in Colorado when I used to ask them why they shy away from fighting for what they deserve. Trust me, it would be unfair to say that people want someone else to fight on their behalf, but what people want is an organization that can represent them in a fair manner, and they feel that IV has a long way to go before that stage comes. I posted a summary of suggested reforms in IV as a organization, but unfortunately it did not spark that positive debate which can bring such reforms. You can read the thread in your leasure time:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406&page=2
Transparency in its action is one such big thing. Lets just learn from an anti immigration forum called numbersusa.com. On their donation page (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/make-donation.html) they clearly mention that "NumbersUSA is recognized by Independent Charities of America as one of the top 3% of well-run charities. When you donate to NumbersUSA, you can be sure that the money is used responsibly." Can we here at IV make such bold statement and prepare ourselves to prove this point if a member ask such question?
I am no way opposing this campaign, I am supporting this and going to contribute too. But I guess its not too much to ask where these contribution will go, and what track able results they might bring.
vbkris77
05-01 06:47 PM
I saw someone already asking this question in Ron Gotcher's immigration forum.
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7988
That is a good thing. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7988
That is a good thing. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
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