kshitijnt
05-09 09:58 PM
Under the circumstances we might like to approach the Hon'ble President by posting a well drafted letter (not more than a page). Let us see what happens. All letters should be posted withing a specific pre-determined time frame (within one week, say from June 1 to June 7) to create an impact. We might like to achieve a target of say 250,000 letters. This cannot go unnoticed.
The law suit option is not bad but probably would need serious consideration. The suit will have more impact if we first send the letter. Atleast then we will have a point in our favour - that we have been driven to wall with no option but to fight legally.
As a starting point can some of us come up with some convincing drafts? We could eventually come up with a good final draft.
Obama was the only person who did make a mention of the problems faced the legal immigrant community during the campaign. We need to highlight this too.
Thanks and regards!
Saptaswara
Everyone need not send the same letter. Let everyone send the same message though. That Indian community is being targeted or that Indians are facing unjust immigration policies as compared to citizens of other countries, which is the truth anyway. I see your point, time is of essence. Send as many letters as soon as possible.
The law suit option is not bad but probably would need serious consideration. The suit will have more impact if we first send the letter. Atleast then we will have a point in our favour - that we have been driven to wall with no option but to fight legally.
As a starting point can some of us come up with some convincing drafts? We could eventually come up with a good final draft.
Obama was the only person who did make a mention of the problems faced the legal immigrant community during the campaign. We need to highlight this too.
Thanks and regards!
Saptaswara
Everyone need not send the same letter. Let everyone send the same message though. That Indian community is being targeted or that Indians are facing unjust immigration policies as compared to citizens of other countries, which is the truth anyway. I see your point, time is of essence. Send as many letters as soon as possible.
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rayoflight
11-18 03:20 PM
Done. Will setup appointments next week.
rsharma
09-24 07:51 AM
Careful my friend. Porting rules will be as tough as the rules for applying in Eb2. If you make porting difficult, you will set a higher standard for the approval of your application in Eb2 ending up with the possible rejection of yours and other Eb2 applications.
Why would you want to stop someone eligible to apply in Eb2? If someone has met all the criteria, the same criteria you had to fulfill when applying in Eb2, then what is the problem?
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
Why would you want to stop someone eligible to apply in Eb2? If someone has met all the criteria, the same criteria you had to fulfill when applying in Eb2, then what is the problem?
Consider the scenario:
Two guys (A and B) come to US in 2005, both do not have MS and experience less than 5 years. Therefore both not elligible for EB2 on 2005. They are from a retrogressed country.
A does MS and joins job in 2007, becomes eligible for EB2 and files GC on 2007.
B joins a job on 2005 that do not need MS and experience and files for EB3.
Till 2010 both of them did not get GC. But B crossed 5 years of experience and from EB3 to EB2. Now B's priority date is 2005, although he was not elligible for EB2 at that time.
Although A was elligible for EB2 in 2007 earlier than B (2010), A is pushed behind B.
SHould it be acceptable to people like A? And there is not one or two pleale like B, thousands arer doing that?
If you see my priority date you will understand I am not saying this for myself. I have a bro and friends who are facing this isssue.
Therefore EB2s who are from mid 2006 onwards will really get pushed back..
I see this porting simillar to the labor substitition.. Till it was in place it was legal although thousands bought labors and that is one main reason EB2 had retrogressed back to 2000. I predict simillar thing is happending again, people are paying money to the desi employers to file perm in EB2 again pretty soon same tertrogression will happen to EB2 I if any urgent action is not taken.
I hace passed this stage.. now its for you all to decide..
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gjoe
10-08 04:01 PM
Your post is a classic example to show how everybody will not understand the other person the same way.
If a person isn't contributing money, isn't participating in state chapters, isn't going to any rally and his/her sole contribution is 'brilliant ideas' that get posted on the forums... only use he/she can be put to is inter-breeding donkeys and horses, like you said!
However, unfortunately, IV is not a farm.
If a person isn't contributing money, isn't participating in state chapters, isn't going to any rally and his/her sole contribution is 'brilliant ideas' that get posted on the forums... only use he/she can be put to is inter-breeding donkeys and horses, like you said!
However, unfortunately, IV is not a farm.
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pranavgandhi
09-16 05:39 PM
This is the first time I think, it is worth to contribute.
99.99% going back to India but still ready to contribute for this cause.
See if we can do something at international level.
Be in major news. Show them what US is doing with immigrants.
Taking money with all for all citizen cause and not giving single benefit.
Most eligible country for filing Bankruptcy.
99.99% going back to India but still ready to contribute for this cause.
See if we can do something at international level.
Be in major news. Show them what US is doing with immigrants.
Taking money with all for all citizen cause and not giving single benefit.
Most eligible country for filing Bankruptcy.
shantak
08-25 07:44 PM
Applied July 11th reached 12th NSC. I-140 approved from Texas, 08/12/2007 LUD on I-140. No receipts yet. No idea checks have been cashed or not (attorneys checks)
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siddhu98
08-14 11:57 AM
EB2-I
EAD application mailed : 7/8/2008
EAD Receipt Date: 7/11/2008
Card approved: 08/12/2008
EAD application mailed : 7/8/2008
EAD Receipt Date: 7/11/2008
Card approved: 08/12/2008
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GCStatus
09-17 12:36 PM
We are making great progress on this and glad to see tonnes of positive responses. For the people who are viewing this thread first time, please send your name, e-mail, ph number and the amount you are willing to contribute ( in case of a lawsuit ) to man-woman-and-gc who is graciously collecting information for us and adding them in the below spreadsheet. Next steps on the way.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
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prom2
08-01 08:15 PM
FYI, people who sent applications on Jun 22th to NSC and their I-140 were approved at TSC, have not received receipts yet.
NSC is around 10 days ahead TSC issuing receipts.
I would say, July filers be patient.
Good luck !
NSC is around 10 days ahead TSC issuing receipts.
I would say, July filers be patient.
Good luck !
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tonyHK12
02-03 07:38 PM
Thank you manja, ravi,shah, hello for your donations.
Total Contribution: $800
Amount to be raised: 50,000 - 800 = $49,200.00
Total Contribution: $800
Amount to be raised: 50,000 - 800 = $49,200.00
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newu77
08-17 06:51 PM
Please reply, We would like to know if anybody got receipt notice (or cheques encashed) and satisfy following criteria:
1) I-140 approved at TSC
2) LUD on I-140 on 07/22, 07/28, 08/05, 08/12 etc...
3) I-485 mailed to NSC during last week of June or early July ?
Thanks
1) I-140 approved at TSC
2) LUD on I-140 on 07/22, 07/28, 08/05, 08/12 etc...
3) I-485 mailed to NSC during last week of June or early July ?
Thanks
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Winner
06-26 06:29 AM
Walking_Dude,
Good to hear from you again. You are the ultimate fighter. I remember your fight in the drivers licence issue in your state. Excellent Job!
Good to hear from you again. You are the ultimate fighter. I remember your fight in the drivers licence issue in your state. Excellent Job!
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gc_lover
07-02 08:52 AM
Delivered to Lincoln, NE on July 02, 2007 at 7:55AM.
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Robin Williams? Are you sure it didn't go to Hollywood!
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Robin Williams? Are you sure it didn't go to Hollywood!
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abhisam
07-15 12:42 AM
I have finally received my FP notice today for my I-485. My case was NSC-CSC-NSC. Never made any service request.
I have recently applied (paper based) for renewal of EAD and AP. Not sure if that triggered the FP notice.
I wish good luck to those who are still waiting for FP notice.
When did u apply for your ead? i am in the same boat and have filed for paper based EAD. hope to get my fp notice soon.
I have recently applied (paper based) for renewal of EAD and AP. Not sure if that triggered the FP notice.
I wish good luck to those who are still waiting for FP notice.
When did u apply for your ead? i am in the same boat and have filed for paper based EAD. hope to get my fp notice soon.
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mnkaushik
08-26 03:40 PM
OK Thanks. And any recent LUD on 485 and already approved EAD (such as 08/21/2010 as most of us got)? Just trying to derive some pattern here...
None on the 485 and we are really not tracking the EAD.
None on the 485 and we are really not tracking the EAD.
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07-02 08:49 AM
mine at local fedex facility at 8.05am at nebraska
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fightnow
07-06 04:14 PM
Legal Immigrants Protest at San Jose on July 7
Location: City Hall
200 E Santa Clara St
San Jose, CA Yahoo Google Map
When: From Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:00 am to Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:30 pm
11:00 AM: Meet at San Jose City Hall (200 E Santa Clara St, meter and paid
parking lot)
11:30 AM: Go to the square in front of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Library (
150 E San Fernando St)
12:30 PM: Walk towards 635 N 1st St through S 4th St, E San Carlos St,
Markety Street and N 1St St.
1:15 PM: Arrive at 635 N 1st St and stay till 2:00 PM
2:30 PM: back to City Hall
Rule #1. Abide by law
Rule #2. Stay on sidewalks.
Rule #3. Follow traffic rules, show courtesy to other pedestrians. Do not
block building entrances
Rule #4. It might help if you dress professionally. Get your best attire out, suit or blazer and tie, and similar business attire if you're a lady.(Newly added by sertasheep)
What to bring: plenty of water, snack, sunblock and your SIGNS.
See google map for the route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=200+E+Santa+Clara+St,+San+Jose,+CA&daddr=S+4th+St+%4037.337490,+-121.887320+to%3A150+E+San+Fernando+St,+san+jose,+c a+to%3AS+4th+St+%4037.332980,+-121.883940+to%3AS+Market+St+%4037.331030,+-121.888360+to%3A37.333859,-121.890907+to%3AN+Market+St+%4037.338380,+-121.894240+to%3AW+St+James+St+%4037.339080,+-121.892780+to%3A635+N+1st+St,+San+Jose,+CA+to%3A20 0+E+Santa+Clara+St+San+Jose,+CA+95113&mrcr=4,5&mrsp=5&sz=15&mra=dme&sll=37.335736,-121.886315&sspn=0.015764,0.039911&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1
Disclaimer: Event leaders take no responsibility and will not be held
responsible for any injuries or accidents that may occur during the
posted events. It is your responsibility to abide by law. By joining
this event, you are taking responsibility for your own safety and well-being.
UPDATE FROM IV CORE :
Bay area residents:
Please begin the process of getting permit from the city to do this in the time-frame and route mentioned. But please move the date to either saturday July 14th or July 21st.
People wont be able to come tommorow so this must be done July 14th or July 21. Also, the rally should not be about just the July bulletin. It should be about backlogs and numerical caps as the root cause of this mess.
But do get city permit for around 100 people (that's what I expect will show up in Bay area based on past experience with Gutierrez rally).
Let's get some attention from CEOs of Oracle, Cisco, Sun and Google and also some attention from Rep. Zoe Lofgren and Nancy Pelosi. There is NO better place than Bay area to do this, especially San Jose.
Let's do this.
Location: City Hall
200 E Santa Clara St
San Jose, CA Yahoo Google Map
When: From Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:00 am to Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:30 pm
11:00 AM: Meet at San Jose City Hall (200 E Santa Clara St, meter and paid
parking lot)
11:30 AM: Go to the square in front of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Library (
150 E San Fernando St)
12:30 PM: Walk towards 635 N 1st St through S 4th St, E San Carlos St,
Markety Street and N 1St St.
1:15 PM: Arrive at 635 N 1st St and stay till 2:00 PM
2:30 PM: back to City Hall
Rule #1. Abide by law
Rule #2. Stay on sidewalks.
Rule #3. Follow traffic rules, show courtesy to other pedestrians. Do not
block building entrances
Rule #4. It might help if you dress professionally. Get your best attire out, suit or blazer and tie, and similar business attire if you're a lady.(Newly added by sertasheep)
What to bring: plenty of water, snack, sunblock and your SIGNS.
See google map for the route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=200+E+Santa+Clara+St,+San+Jose,+CA&daddr=S+4th+St+%4037.337490,+-121.887320+to%3A150+E+San+Fernando+St,+san+jose,+c a+to%3AS+4th+St+%4037.332980,+-121.883940+to%3AS+Market+St+%4037.331030,+-121.888360+to%3A37.333859,-121.890907+to%3AN+Market+St+%4037.338380,+-121.894240+to%3AW+St+James+St+%4037.339080,+-121.892780+to%3A635+N+1st+St,+San+Jose,+CA+to%3A20 0+E+Santa+Clara+St+San+Jose,+CA+95113&mrcr=4,5&mrsp=5&sz=15&mra=dme&sll=37.335736,-121.886315&sspn=0.015764,0.039911&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1
Disclaimer: Event leaders take no responsibility and will not be held
responsible for any injuries or accidents that may occur during the
posted events. It is your responsibility to abide by law. By joining
this event, you are taking responsibility for your own safety and well-being.
UPDATE FROM IV CORE :
Bay area residents:
Please begin the process of getting permit from the city to do this in the time-frame and route mentioned. But please move the date to either saturday July 14th or July 21st.
People wont be able to come tommorow so this must be done July 14th or July 21. Also, the rally should not be about just the July bulletin. It should be about backlogs and numerical caps as the root cause of this mess.
But do get city permit for around 100 people (that's what I expect will show up in Bay area based on past experience with Gutierrez rally).
Let's get some attention from CEOs of Oracle, Cisco, Sun and Google and also some attention from Rep. Zoe Lofgren and Nancy Pelosi. There is NO better place than Bay area to do this, especially San Jose.
Let's do this.
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suavesandeep
07-20 12:17 AM
I pledge $100 for this cause also.
Would also like to thank Gopal (gsc999) for getting all the banners done and helping a lot in organizing the SJ rally.Kudos to all Noble souls in the IV Core. I think what IV has acheived is amazing and unprecedented. Also money is too small to repay all the hours and work you guys have put in.
I am sure God will bless all of you with a timely GC :). Best Wishes again.
Would also like to thank Gopal (gsc999) for getting all the banners done and helping a lot in organizing the SJ rally.Kudos to all Noble souls in the IV Core. I think what IV has acheived is amazing and unprecedented. Also money is too small to repay all the hours and work you guys have put in.
I am sure God will bless all of you with a timely GC :). Best Wishes again.
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TheOmbudsman
10-30 09:46 AM
Good morning.
Yes, I am. That would be a very smart thing to do.
Honestly, I don't see why NumbersUSA would use our information to develop a counter attack. What we want is straightforward and should be straightforward. Everyone knows who are the senators who listen to our lobbysts. Don't worry with that. Trying to fight against the desire of the American people and sneak in provisions on our behalf is not working. If NumbersUSA is comprised of 200,000+ very active members, chances are they will demolish us every time if we try to go against their desire. This is not like passing the 80's amnesty anymore. The Internet out there has proven to be a very powerful democratic tool on this. If you add provisions there such as temporary increase in visa numbers (enough to take the GC applicants veterans out of this mess) and similar modest proposals which do not increase the number of greencard significantly and coordinate with NumbersUSA, then we may succeed. Believe me I called IV members when this organization was created to explain this, but no one gets it. Persuading certain lawmakers to come up with the proposals on our behalf is the easy part. AILA has been doing this for a long time anyway. As long as you have the money and connections to do so. I am not taking the IV merit away. I do give them credit for organizing the structure and collecting the resources. However, this is not about credits or discredits. Think about it and figure out who actually blocked S.2611/1934 last year. Hint:It was not lawmakers. Note that we should try to come up with provisions enough to minimize the greencard waiting times, not making the priority current for everyone, although that would be obviously ideal.
It is a reality that you don't like to hear:The American people, in a way represented by NumbersUSA, are the bosses on this. Trying to fight against is really hard. You need to gain their sympathy instead.
Regards,
The Ombudsman
"Your dose of daily reality"
Are folks on this thread suggesting we contact (communicate our plans to !!!) numbersusa? They are not going to listen to us, I can guarantee you that --- even if we tone down our demands! They might use our plans to develop a more effective strategy for themselves; they hate us from the bottom of their hearts. This is the most ridiculous and impractical thing I've heard in a while.
Yes, I am. That would be a very smart thing to do.
Honestly, I don't see why NumbersUSA would use our information to develop a counter attack. What we want is straightforward and should be straightforward. Everyone knows who are the senators who listen to our lobbysts. Don't worry with that. Trying to fight against the desire of the American people and sneak in provisions on our behalf is not working. If NumbersUSA is comprised of 200,000+ very active members, chances are they will demolish us every time if we try to go against their desire. This is not like passing the 80's amnesty anymore. The Internet out there has proven to be a very powerful democratic tool on this. If you add provisions there such as temporary increase in visa numbers (enough to take the GC applicants veterans out of this mess) and similar modest proposals which do not increase the number of greencard significantly and coordinate with NumbersUSA, then we may succeed. Believe me I called IV members when this organization was created to explain this, but no one gets it. Persuading certain lawmakers to come up with the proposals on our behalf is the easy part. AILA has been doing this for a long time anyway. As long as you have the money and connections to do so. I am not taking the IV merit away. I do give them credit for organizing the structure and collecting the resources. However, this is not about credits or discredits. Think about it and figure out who actually blocked S.2611/1934 last year. Hint:It was not lawmakers. Note that we should try to come up with provisions enough to minimize the greencard waiting times, not making the priority current for everyone, although that would be obviously ideal.
It is a reality that you don't like to hear:The American people, in a way represented by NumbersUSA, are the bosses on this. Trying to fight against is really hard. You need to gain their sympathy instead.
Regards,
The Ombudsman
"Your dose of daily reality"
Are folks on this thread suggesting we contact (communicate our plans to !!!) numbersusa? They are not going to listen to us, I can guarantee you that --- even if we tone down our demands! They might use our plans to develop a more effective strategy for themselves; they hate us from the bottom of their hearts. This is the most ridiculous and impractical thing I've heard in a while.
psaxena
09-10 04:00 PM
The only way out is to either go back or get together in a group and help IV to move ahead..
THATS THE ONLY , REST EVERY SUGGESTION WITHOUT THIS IS BULLSHIT.
QUOTE=TeddyKoochu;874115]I fully agree with this suggestion. This will greatly alleviate the suffering of the population who missed Jul 07 irrespective of EB2/EB3. The only way we can get the interim benefits (EAD/AP) is that the date crosses our PD's again which in the pre-adjudicated world is going to take a while. Any thoughts suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]
THATS THE ONLY , REST EVERY SUGGESTION WITHOUT THIS IS BULLSHIT.
QUOTE=TeddyKoochu;874115]I fully agree with this suggestion. This will greatly alleviate the suffering of the population who missed Jul 07 irrespective of EB2/EB3. The only way we can get the interim benefits (EAD/AP) is that the date crosses our PD's again which in the pre-adjudicated world is going to take a while. Any thoughts suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]
gkattalu
08-20 12:53 PM
Buddyinsd,
Please hang in there. I am sure you will get yours card soon...
For various reasons, I got my greencard 14 years after entering this country and 14years after getting my Ph.D. Life throws up challenges and we have to face them with courage.
Ha ha Congrats....
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
Please hang in there. I am sure you will get yours card soon...
For various reasons, I got my greencard 14 years after entering this country and 14years after getting my Ph.D. Life throws up challenges and we have to face them with courage.
Ha ha Congrats....
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
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