senthil1
07-28 01:20 PM
Problem is not with compaign to get more spill over visa for EB3. Can you impress USCIS/DOS to get this done. What support EB3 has outside(like companies,lawyers) for this compaign. EB2 supposed to have more skills than EB3 according to DOS/USCIS. So if you argue that EB3 and EB2 are same then they will not accept it. If you impress somehow they will just investigate the entire EB process and try to find the truth. That time many other issues may come up.
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
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GCNaseeb
08-27 07:15 PM
485/765/131 filed at NSC.
I-140 approved at NSC in June '07.
EB3 PD: 08/03.
No news yet.
I-140 approved at NSC in June '07.
EB3 PD: 08/03.
No news yet.
ilwaiting
05-04 04:38 PM
No pun intended here. But I was a fresher too at some point of time in my life!!!. Didn't mean to offended anyone. Anyway, I think this is a pointless discussion. Congress is going to do what they want to do. I just wanted to putforth my thoughts in my previous message.
Also, I would think I would benefit from any law they pass pertaining to EB.
I just dont understand the logic that If these "kids" get off the queue how will I get it. If the kids get out in a year i may have to wait another 2+ years to get a GC. I really dont see how having US degree in their hands helps. Let me take my example I was hired 3 years after college directly from my country from an multi-billion dollar market cap company from here. I quit that in 3 years and joined some other company that is a different thing.
And as far as studying here that is your problem if you want to spend money and study. As far as being helpful to US I have paid a lot more in terms of Taxes and other things than someone who has 3 years and mostly studied here on assitantships. And also being a hiring manager for the company have hired may US citizens as well.
Im not trying to create a division here. All I'm trying to say is that everyone needs to be helped not just only with Masters degrees.
Also, I would think I would benefit from any law they pass pertaining to EB.
I just dont understand the logic that If these "kids" get off the queue how will I get it. If the kids get out in a year i may have to wait another 2+ years to get a GC. I really dont see how having US degree in their hands helps. Let me take my example I was hired 3 years after college directly from my country from an multi-billion dollar market cap company from here. I quit that in 3 years and joined some other company that is a different thing.
And as far as studying here that is your problem if you want to spend money and study. As far as being helpful to US I have paid a lot more in terms of Taxes and other things than someone who has 3 years and mostly studied here on assitantships. And also being a hiring manager for the company have hired may US citizens as well.
Im not trying to create a division here. All I'm trying to say is that everyone needs to be helped not just only with Masters degrees.
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anzerraja
07-19 09:44 PM
Thanks !
I am in
$200.00 to start. Will definitely contribute more.
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$200.00 to start. Will definitely contribute more.
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sparklinks
08-13 02:43 PM
Mine is EB2, reached July 2nd at 7.55 AM Fedex received by Robin Williams at NSC and I got the check cashed and has receipt numbers but my I140 LUD is not changed. But my I-140 was already approved and it was not concurrent filling. So if its not concurrent filing then I think I140 LUD should not change or not related to 485 receipt notice? Am I right?
Mine also EB2, reached July 2nd at 7.55 AM Fedex received by Robin Williams at NSC BUT non of my checks were cashed:confused:
Mine also EB2, reached July 2nd at 7.55 AM Fedex received by Robin Williams at NSC BUT non of my checks were cashed:confused:
senthil
06-15 01:01 PM
as july VB states all EB categories for india is current, is there a chance ( or even worst case scenario ) where the dates can retrogess in the middle of month anytime ?
in other words can we take it for granted that the dates will NOT move back till the last working day of july 07
any ideas / inputs ?
in other words can we take it for granted that the dates will NOT move back till the last working day of july 07
any ideas / inputs ?
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acecupid
07-03 01:29 PM
still valid link
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any vendor is fine. its a token of protest
I think its important to mention this is a protest of the actions done by them, otherwise the morons might think we are appreciating their work..
Please make sure this is a protest and your message should convey that. I'm sure the morons would think otherwise if we dont make it clear to them.:D
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any vendor is fine. its a token of protest
I think its important to mention this is a protest of the actions done by them, otherwise the morons might think we are appreciating their work..
Please make sure this is a protest and your message should convey that. I'm sure the morons would think otherwise if we dont make it clear to them.:D
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gc28262
08-24 10:19 PM
Thats incorrect...Lot of major corporations hire from different locations in the world...I have several friends working at a s/w giant in Seattle area who were directly hired in Russia, India, Singapore, etc...
I think that is an exception. Majority of corporations won't hire from overseas.
I think that is an exception. Majority of corporations won't hire from overseas.
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subdhar
08-31 02:28 PM
How am I being a racist? I'm just pointing out the fact that North and South Indians belong to different races and USCIS should stop clubbing them together.
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gjoe
10-04 07:14 AM
I am 5July filer, I got my RN on 10Sep but no FP notice till date
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krishna.ahd
10-08 06:58 PM
Let me ask you a question.
When you renew EAD what will be the start date. For example:
Lets say current EAD Expires 12/31/2007.
I apply for renewal in July say 07/01/2007.
When I get the new EAD would it start from 12/31/2007 to 12/31/2008 or sometime in July/August/September when it gets approved?
Basically would the renewal date start from where the current one is expiring or from the dat it got approved?
Thanks
I have observed whichever is later
Meaning your current EAD valid till 12-31-2007 and approval is before then starting date is 01-01-2008
If approval date is after 12-31-2007 then starting date is approval date.
I could not understand from sirinme the below -
As long as you applied for renewal you should able to work - that is what i was told from my attorney
"I did have trouble with AC21 once. I ended up having a gap between my 2nd and 3rd EADs (so did my wife too), as we tried to do too much 'optimization' of EADs. Well, we learned the hard way that 'optimization' effort is bad, as both of us had to stop working during the gap. It's not a very pleasant feeling having to explain our respective employers that we had such issue. We lost money too, as we couldn't be legally paid during the gap - in addition to the unnecessary stress. I wish USCIS issues EADs with longer validity period - something like 3 years (but I once heard Aman say that they couldn't do so due to a software glitch in their system!!). In any case, we are now filing for EAD renewals well in advance of the current one's expiry."
When you renew EAD what will be the start date. For example:
Lets say current EAD Expires 12/31/2007.
I apply for renewal in July say 07/01/2007.
When I get the new EAD would it start from 12/31/2007 to 12/31/2008 or sometime in July/August/September when it gets approved?
Basically would the renewal date start from where the current one is expiring or from the dat it got approved?
Thanks
I have observed whichever is later
Meaning your current EAD valid till 12-31-2007 and approval is before then starting date is 01-01-2008
If approval date is after 12-31-2007 then starting date is approval date.
I could not understand from sirinme the below -
As long as you applied for renewal you should able to work - that is what i was told from my attorney
"I did have trouble with AC21 once. I ended up having a gap between my 2nd and 3rd EADs (so did my wife too), as we tried to do too much 'optimization' of EADs. Well, we learned the hard way that 'optimization' effort is bad, as both of us had to stop working during the gap. It's not a very pleasant feeling having to explain our respective employers that we had such issue. We lost money too, as we couldn't be legally paid during the gap - in addition to the unnecessary stress. I wish USCIS issues EADs with longer validity period - something like 3 years (but I once heard Aman say that they couldn't do so due to a software glitch in their system!!). In any case, we are now filing for EAD renewals well in advance of the current one's expiry."
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LCtank
06-20 01:30 PM
No reason to loose energy. Enjoy what you have and make the best out of it. Agree, this should be the way everybody lives his/her life. While you have little control of it, just enjoy your time as you usually do. Eat your favorite food, love your love, don't let anything behind because of this issue.
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smitin_2000
09-09 07:19 PM
visa bulleting indicates what is going to happen to EB3-I for 2009-10 year, in next 3-4 months it will again become U, with date around Nov'01, and that's it, unless CIR get passed (don't know when........) with some urgently needed fix for EB category, it is hopeless atleast for EB3-I folks
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12-18 04:45 PM
The ideas and concepts of releasing your unlimited potential can only be turned into reality if you take bold action now. Wishful thinking will not make your dreams come true. . If you want to be free your thinking must control your limitations instead of your limitations controlling your thinking. Look at your life for a moment! What do you see? Do you see opportunity, love, happiness, success and fulfillment? Or, have you mentally set up restrictive limitations? If so, the fact that you have declared yourself a prisoner will make you a prisoner. Once you make up your mind to be free and declare that you are �sick and tired of being sick and tired,� you will be motivated to make necessary moves toward liberation. The truth is, you will remain where you are only as long as you hold yourself prisoner. There are only �ordinary� people who have decided to do �great� things. These are people who are motivated by a burning desire to be free in order to express their unlimited potential. Instead of blaming others for their condition, they took action to change their situation.
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NKR
04-25 11:16 AM
the point here is not how long its gonna take. Its sure that they r gonna work if not immediately may be in 3-4 months. and once they see all the proofs(i do have proofs) whole company will be audited rock bottom, all the gc filing will be verified and single loophole is just enough to cause irriparable damage to the company. not only the reputation but i heard they will have a high penalty of 100's of thousands dollars. I have contacted one of the top lawfirms.for the matter of $4000 if the company chooses to do it, its their foolishness. also if they genuinely wanted to enforce non compete they wouldn't have used it as a threat agiainst payments they owe me.
Its not that I haven't made any efforts to reconcile with my ex-employer. I have tried and still trying to get them to have a civil conversation and settle this. But the more I try, i beleive, they r thinking the more scared i am and are being arrogant by not replying to any of my emails or phone calls. My reconciling efforts are giving them wrong hints i beleive. I am definetly stressed about this,thats true, but i am not scared because of all the info i gathered, I know even they do file a suit, I will be on the winning side. though i have option to go directly to DOL or USCIS and can show all the proofs i have regarding the deductions they have made, i haven't made till today just because of the kind of relationship we had earlier and also concerned about other h1bs who r with the company right now. I dont want their GC's to be in jeopardy. but if employer doesn't make the effort from his side, and pulls the thread till it breaks, i can't help it.
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Dude, I do not know who has given you red dot, you certainly deserve more green dots. I too think the same, if the company had to sue you for violating non-compete, they could have done it anytime, why are they threatening you when you ask for your salary. Either they do not have a non-compete agreement that they say you have signed (since you are not sure about it) or the non-compete has become invalid over a period of time or it does not hold water.
Its not that I haven't made any efforts to reconcile with my ex-employer. I have tried and still trying to get them to have a civil conversation and settle this. But the more I try, i beleive, they r thinking the more scared i am and are being arrogant by not replying to any of my emails or phone calls. My reconciling efforts are giving them wrong hints i beleive. I am definetly stressed about this,thats true, but i am not scared because of all the info i gathered, I know even they do file a suit, I will be on the winning side. though i have option to go directly to DOL or USCIS and can show all the proofs i have regarding the deductions they have made, i haven't made till today just because of the kind of relationship we had earlier and also concerned about other h1bs who r with the company right now. I dont want their GC's to be in jeopardy. but if employer doesn't make the effort from his side, and pulls the thread till it breaks, i can't help it.
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Dude, I do not know who has given you red dot, you certainly deserve more green dots. I too think the same, if the company had to sue you for violating non-compete, they could have done it anytime, why are they threatening you when you ask for your salary. Either they do not have a non-compete agreement that they say you have signed (since you are not sure about it) or the non-compete has become invalid over a period of time or it does not hold water.
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kvranand
09-25 10:40 PM
I have received all of my family reciepts (I-485,AP,EAD) today from my attorney. Case filed at NSC and got the receipts with LIN numbers. Package reached NSC on Aug 10, '07.
RD Aug 13, '07.
ND Sept 19, '07.
RD Aug 13, '07.
ND Sept 19, '07.
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paragpujara
08-11 09:26 PM
We got our Cards today along with Welcome notice.
Yesterday status got updated for me and my wife as below:
Current Status: Approval notice sent.
On August 8, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service.
Hope I will receive GC soon. Haven't got CPO mails/status yet.
Yesterday status got updated for me and my wife as below:
Current Status: Approval notice sent.
On August 8, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service.
Hope I will receive GC soon. Haven't got CPO mails/status yet.
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delax
12-17 10:18 AM
Was a little disillusioned with the whole name check process and I called USCIS yesterday. My wife cleared her name check, but mine is pending. It was initiated for both of us on Sept 26. I am not worried at all although it would not be true if I said that I was never worried.
This is an irrational, unscientific and to a great extent arbitrary process - and by that I mean the entire green card process. Added to that is the never ending desire to beat the process - read labor substitution and PD porting. I have neither tried it nor do I intend to do it. Before people start piling on and I get accused of a holier than thou attitude, I am only expressing an opinion (not a value judgement) in an open forum. The last time I checked, a forum was meant to do just that.
Objectively thinking my emotional stability and that of my family is a lot dearer than a piece of plastic, especially when none of the steps in the process are within my control.
Yes I can contribute, lobby, send letters etc and make an attempt to get the process under my control - but I think its an indvidual decision whether someone wants to contribute, lobby, write letters etc - I did attend the DC rally though. Obviously the opportunity to express my opinion here has been provided by IV and I am grateful for that.
All that I care about right now is to make sure my wife graduates from school, is able to work, we can travel as a family and enjoy this country. The rest is like trying to find two grains of wheat in two bushels of chaff.
Just my 2 cents - Good luck with your green card process.
This is an irrational, unscientific and to a great extent arbitrary process - and by that I mean the entire green card process. Added to that is the never ending desire to beat the process - read labor substitution and PD porting. I have neither tried it nor do I intend to do it. Before people start piling on and I get accused of a holier than thou attitude, I am only expressing an opinion (not a value judgement) in an open forum. The last time I checked, a forum was meant to do just that.
Objectively thinking my emotional stability and that of my family is a lot dearer than a piece of plastic, especially when none of the steps in the process are within my control.
Yes I can contribute, lobby, send letters etc and make an attempt to get the process under my control - but I think its an indvidual decision whether someone wants to contribute, lobby, write letters etc - I did attend the DC rally though. Obviously the opportunity to express my opinion here has been provided by IV and I am grateful for that.
All that I care about right now is to make sure my wife graduates from school, is able to work, we can travel as a family and enjoy this country. The rest is like trying to find two grains of wheat in two bushels of chaff.
Just my 2 cents - Good luck with your green card process.
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ramus
07-07 09:33 PM
Yes, if we work on our state chapter and get some idea how many members can join in DC then we can talk about it to core members and see what they think.
IF something is planned, we can come to DC from Raleigh,NC.
IF something is planned, we can come to DC from Raleigh,NC.
Naveen
07-09 05:54 PM
go for it!!. hope Naveen wont mind.
Darn it! I will be careful next time :) Thanks for correcting my mistake.
Darn it! I will be careful next time :) Thanks for correcting my mistake.
dealsnet
03-28 01:40 PM
Good job. Thanks.:D
Average worldwide processing time for employment based green card applications is 1.43 years (Priority Date to GC approval).
In simple words, it takes 5.5 years to wrap up the 1 year GC demand for Indian applicants presuming there is no overflow from any other country GC visa quota.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pezNTiCXNupwoSrZGE4kqcg
Above conclusion is drawn after comparing the statistics for just the 2007 PERM data from DOL.
http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/perm07.pdf
I also assumed that there are 1000 Non-Perm cases for India alone, but changing it would not affect the results a lot.
Just imagine the demand that would have been in years 2000~2002 and thats a project for another er!
Unless we stand up unitedly, talk to the senators and raise our voice, we can plan on retiring on H1. It may be now or never!
Average worldwide processing time for employment based green card applications is 1.43 years (Priority Date to GC approval).
In simple words, it takes 5.5 years to wrap up the 1 year GC demand for Indian applicants presuming there is no overflow from any other country GC visa quota.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pezNTiCXNupwoSrZGE4kqcg
Above conclusion is drawn after comparing the statistics for just the 2007 PERM data from DOL.
http://www.shusterman.com/pdf/perm07.pdf
I also assumed that there are 1000 Non-Perm cases for India alone, but changing it would not affect the results a lot.
Just imagine the demand that would have been in years 2000~2002 and thats a project for another er!
Unless we stand up unitedly, talk to the senators and raise our voice, we can plan on retiring on H1. It may be now or never!
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